Tomcat
in Love is a book that Tim O'Brien thought
he'd never write. Although his previous novel, In
the Lake of the Woods, was a critical and popular
success, O'Brien announced that it was his last.
After a notorious essay that was tantamount to a
suicide note and a breakdown during a reading in
Ann Arbor, Michigan, O'Brien began, slowly, to confront
his demons. If he had made good on his promise of
retirement, his stature would be assured; he has
received the National Book Award for Going After
Cacciato and the Prix du Meilleur Livre
Etranger for The Things They Carried,
which was also nominated for the National Book Critics
Circle Award and the Pulitzer Prize. Happily, it
was a promise he couldn't keep.
The
flashes of humor in O'Brien's earlier works are
given free rein in Tomcat in Love.
An outrageous black comedy, the book is a portrait
of a sexist, self‑deluding linguistics professor
who attempts to work through the anguish of a failed
marriage by sabotaging his ex‑wife's new relationship.
Though a comic novel may seem a departure for an
author best known for his masterful fiction about
combat experience, O'Brien insists that it is not.
His subject has remained the same throughout all
his books: the human heart under stress. Gadfly
spoke to him at his home in Cambridge, Massachusetts,
shortly after the promotional tour for Tomcat
in Love.
The
critical reception of your new novel has been wildly
polarized; some reviewers have loathed it, while
others have called it a masterwork. What sort of
reaction did you see on your recent book tour?
TO:
Well, people don't talk in terms of critical responses;
they just laugh, or they don't. They laughed, and
that's what I wanted with the book. Essentially,
you want books to generate not just intellectual
but visceral or emotional responses. In this case,
you gauge it by the laugh‑o‑meter, sort
of like the Ted Mack Amateur Hour, where they had
that little meter going. And, for a change, that's
what I wanted to do with this book: to make people
laugh at themselves, at the characters in the book,
and at the human condition. So it was a good response.
At
the two readings in the Twin Cities, the reaction
was quite positive. I saw a few arched eyebrows
and shakes of the head in response to some of the
more outlandishly misogynistic statements made by
Thomas Chippering, the narrator of Tomcat.
But there were no irate walkouts, and during the
question‑and‑answer sessions that followed,
no one seemed to have difficulty making the distinction
between the flesh‑and‑blood author and
his fictional creation. So no one read you the riot
act at any of the readings?
No,
it went well.
Your
seven novels have established you as part of the
canon of twentieth‑century American literature,
yet your second novel, Northern Lights,
has been out of print in the United States for some
time. Is that your decision?
Yeah,
it is. Dell has asked several times to reprint it,
and I've said no. I want to rewrite it. If I could
cut fifty to eighty pages out of it, I know I could
make it a better book. As it is, it's just overwritten.
I think that's a project that I'll do sometime in
the next four or five years. It would take me a
good six months to do it right, and it would also
require some rewriting. But I think it could be
a good book, if I were to put it on the Jenny Craig
diet. I keep putting it off, because it's something
you can do when you've kind of lost your juice,
and I haven't lost it yet.
The
question of memory—its veracity, its accuracy,
and the role it plays in shaping our personal histories—has
been a principal theme in your work, particularly
The Things They Carried and
In the Lake of the Woods. How
do you see the relationship between truth and memory?
Well,
I think one has a little to do with the other. To
put it conversely, they have everything to do with
each other. It depends, like I guess all things
do, on your angle of vision. One could argue, as
Plato does, that truth is something abstract, just
floating out there. Whether we remember a thing,
imagine it, or know anything about it, is irrelevant;
it's just out there. There are others who would
argue—as I guess I do; I'm not much of a Platonist
in that sense—that the human being shapes
and determines what we call truth. Truth is ultimately
a statement. It's an issue of language. You make
declarations and then you judge them. The word "truth"
is dependent on the kind of declaration we make
about the world. You could declare that the world
is flat. It's a linguistic statement. Its so‑called
"truth" is determined by evidentiary standards,
whatever you can do to determine flatness. I guess
I fall into what is philosophically called the camp
of the idealists, as opposed to the realists. I
think the truth is really a function of the statements
we make about the world. Witness Clinton, with this
whole business about the truth of what's sex and
what's not sex. Witness Chippering, the character
in my book, with his equivocations, hairsplittings,
and so on. Ultimately, the truth of things is what
we say about things; what we say about things determines
the way we think about truth.
The
style that you use when describing war experiences
is very elliptical, very fragmentary, with a moral
compass that doesn't always point due north, so
to speak. What do you think of something like Saving
Private Ryan, which takes the
opposite tack in its linear, "clear‑eyed"
representation of wartime?
I
didn't buy it. I found the first twenty minutes
compelling, partly because it was fragmentary, with
this and that happening, and everything sort of
confused, which is not only how war strikes me,
but how life itself ultimately does. This doesn't
always tie in with that, and if it does, you sure
as hell can't tell where and how. The rest of the
movie I found...boring, I guess is the best word,
because it was linear. It was a story that I'd seen
before, or read about before: you know, going off
to save a guy, and every little dot connects with
every other dot in a perfect way. It just seemed
to me to be syrupy, sentimental, predictable and
kind of stupid on top of it all. I don't know; I
mean, many veterans of the war loved the movie,
and I hate to badmouth it. But I have no choice,
because I think it's just a shitty piece of art,
except for those first twenty minutes. I found the
characters predictable. I even turned to Meredith
[Baker, O'Brien's girlfriend] at the beginning of
the movie—right after that very first scene,
where they go to the cemetery—and I said,
"That old man is not going to be Tom Hanks.
That's a red herring. Tom Hanks is gonna die, and
that's going to be Matt Damon. I promise you."
It was just so predictable as to be not very interesting
to me, finally.
On
the eve of the publication of In the Lake of
the Woods, you wrote an essay
for the New York Times Magazine
("The Vietnam in Me," 2 Oct 94) that was
the literary equivalent of a raw nerve. It's not
often that a major novelist muses so publicly about
wanting to kill himself. Can you talk about how
things have changed for you since then?
Writing Tomcat helped a lot. Fortunately,
when I began writing the book right after the In
the Lake of the Woods tour was over,
I found myself laughing at the first few pages that
I wrote, and thought, "Well, this is an improvement
over the way things were a few days ago." The
more I wrote, the more I laughed, and the more I
laughed, the better I felt about the world. That's
just an example of how literature has an effect
on not only our critical and intellectual capacities,
but on our lives. It can really help the soul and
help us heal.
In
the press you did for In the Lake of the Woods,
you adamantly stated that it was your final book.
Yet, you began work on Tomcat in Love
almost immediately. How did the reversal happen
so quickly?
Well,
it wasn't almost immediate. It was nine months or
so before I really began writing again. I took a
long time off. I had intended to take eternity off,
and it turned out to be nine months. But I did take
a pretty substantial break. I'm not even sure now
what it was that brought me to start typing sentences
again. I can't recall the day I did it. All I remember
is that laughter I mentioned earlier. I remember
just kind of giggling, sort of laughing at myself,
and at obsession, love, and all these sorts of things.
But what it was that actually brought me back to
the typewriter, I really don't know. I initially
started to write a book of nonfiction, with Tomcat—that
first section about Herbie [the sister of Chippering's
childhood love, Lorna Sue], when they were kids.
I really thought I was writing a memoir. Over the
course of the first month or so, slowly—as
always—the fiction began creeping in. With
dialogue, I thought I could make things up that
were an improvement over the way things were. And
by the time the first month was over, I was writing
a novel again.
I
remember reading that first section of Tomcat
in The New Yorker
("Faith," 12 Feb 1996). You've said that
the reason you've written so few short stories is
that they wind up being the seeds for future novels.
That's
the truth.
With
that in mind, I'd like to ask you about any plans
you might have for two recently published short
works: "Loon Point" (Esquire,
Jan 1995) and "The Streak" (The New
Yorker, 28 Sep 1998).
I'm
of two minds about that. Right now, I'm working
on stories, on conceiving them. I had talked and
thought a lot about turning "Loon Point"
into a novel, but I haven't done that yet. Now I'm
just doing a bunch of stories, and that's going
to be one of them. But you never know when you may
say, "Well, God, with each of these stories
that I'm doing, if I just changed the names, they
could all be one and the same person." It could
be a novel, but as it stands now, I'm just working
on a set of discrete stories. But I do have a novel
in mind. It's probably going to be a book away from
this book of stories. I'm thinking of doing a novel
with the title of May '69, which would—basically—be
a novel about the month of May in 1969.
Are
the stories you describe going to be another set
of interconnected short works, like The Things
They Carried?
Yeah,
I think they will end up being that way. There are
already characters appearing who have appeared in
other stories. I had a piece in the February '98
issue of Esquire. It's very short,
only one page long in the magazine. It's called
"Class of '68," about a class reunion,
meeting thirty years later. Already I've done two
other stories about that same reunion. I've started
thinking of all these other characters that I've
been writing about in other stories who are all
appearing at the same reunion. So, yeah, I think
that may be the way it goes. Again, you don't know
until you get farther into it. I know they're going
to be interconnected; I just don't know quite what
the framework will be.
The
framework will appear at the end, I guess.
It
always does.